For this week’s episode, I tell a story about Ryan Sullivan, my friend since high school whose career has come full circle over the span of nearly 20 years. Ryan began working in real estate in his 20s then went back to school after the stock market crashed in 2008 to become a mental health counselor for children. But after graduating with student loans that needed to be paid, he made the decision to circle back to real estate and decided to give back by volunteering with an organization that supports children who have been diagnosed with cancer and their families.

Ryan and I talked about how he didn’t have as much success when he was a young real estate agent, how he used what he learned in college to become a better agent the second time around, and about why his professional goals are tied in to the impact he wants to make as a volunteer.